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jordyn
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how to summon a demon...
« on: January 21, 2009, 07:55:34 PM »
since everyone else is a master but refuses to share the "secret" to dealing with these easily trained creatures enjoy, it's your life not mine.
the first step is deciding who or what sort of demon you want, choosing an established name is the most accurate method, particularly with a symbol to support the intent, draw it, think it, see it shining bright in your mind, connect with it. Study the demon while dwelling on it's sigil, understand what interests it, drives it, where it came from, what it's associations are, what it represents and represent it, behave how it would want to if it was flesh...live your life for it, make what attracts it your life. if you choose to test your own natural talents, focus your intent on what you want in your life pick up a pencil, sit quietly and start drawing lines, shapes and squiggles, eventually something will show up looking quite like a sigil, sit and concentrate on it until you get a name...it may be something common, unpronounceable or even nonsense, but it'll give you it's name once it's felt your energy reach out to it, offering it sustenance.
Once you've settled on who and what you want, sit quietly and listen, sometimes slicing yourself and offering your blood or drawing it's symbol in your blood will entice it even more, showing a willingness to mark yourself is always a stroke to their ego, affirm it for them. spend a lot of your time with your new buddy, get to know it, here's where quija boards can be most useful, let the planchette rub against your hand to learn the difference between yours and those just passing by. invite your friends to play, they love a crowd and the thrills they can cause resulting in a fresh burst of energy. during your quiet and alone time, just sit, open your mind and catch the first thoughts that come to your mind, with a lot of practice it becomes possible to separate yours from theirs and soon it'll be a constant flow.
at this point once you to have firmly established your symbiotic relationship is the time you can attempt any pacts or deals, don't expect to much really after all, you invited them to come and be your friend, and it's bad manners to be rude to your guests, but if you find an acceptable balance to keep it's interest, that's when you can do what you want, they really like it if you have enemies and ex friends to "curse". It's sort of a break having some other energy to feed it giving you a slight break from their constant hunger, do keep in mind the more you have it do in our world, the more energy you have to generate to keep them strong and interactive, so you may want to look into psychic vampirism, sex and blood magics, we humans can only generate so much
so there you have it, how to summon a demon, get all the faustian, dantism and enochian out of your ideals, once you have it, it's yours forever and they're rarely alone for long.
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nightwolf
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Re: how to summon a demon...
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2009, 10:01:30 PM »
That's not how you get a demon to work for you. That's how you become a demon's thrall. Very big difference. And you won't even be it's forever, it'll just use you and when it's done it will eat you.
This is yet another reason why you DON'T SUMMON DEMONS.
But it's your soul, feel free to screw it over however you want.
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Omnipotent
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Re: how to summon a demon...
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2009, 11:14:55 PM »
Well, if you're a mere mortal I guess its harder for you to fend off a demon to fool it off to make it be at your service and do as you will.
But you know, with the correct tools and more or less somewhat i like to call The Chains of God, you could have fun with a demon?
Be it a spiritual bastard, like many of them. Or an actual physical monster, its no easy task.
And either way for both circumstances, you must be very fit. Spiritually and Physically.
So, yeah. Don't even think about summoning a demon without being qualified.
Even I don't go on and summon them just for fun, haha. I did when i was younger,
but oh well. Things have changed, and most demons/devils aren't even worth the sweat.
Omni.
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Cassiel
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Re: how to summon a demon...
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2009, 07:26:45 PM »
Quote from: jordyn on January 21, 2009, 07:55:34 PM
since everyone else is a master but refuses to share the "secret" to dealing with these easily trained creatures enjoy, it's your life not mine.
the first step is deciding who or what sort of demon you want, choosing an established name is the most accurate method, particularly with a symbol to support the intent, draw it, think it, see it shining bright in your mind, connect with it. Study the demon while dwelling on it's sigil, understand what interests it, drives it, where it came from, what it's associations are, what it represents and represent it, behave how it would want to if it was flesh...live your life for it, make what attracts it your life. if you choose to test your own natural talents, focus your intent on what you want in your life pick up a pencil, sit quietly and start drawing lines, shapes and squiggles, eventually something will show up looking quite like a sigil, sit and concentrate on it until you get a name...it may be something common, unpronounceable or even nonsense, but it'll give you it's name once it's felt your energy reach out to it, offering it sustenance.
Once you've settled on who and what you want, sit quietly and listen, sometimes slicing yourself and offering your blood or drawing it's symbol in your blood will entice it even more, showing a willingness to mark yourself is always a stroke to their ego, affirm it for them. spend a lot of your time with your new buddy, get to know it, here's where quija boards can be most useful, let the planchette rub against your hand to learn the difference between yours and those just passing by. invite your friends to play, they love a crowd and the thrills they can cause resulting in a fresh burst of energy. during your quiet and alone time, just sit, open your mind and catch the first thoughts that come to your mind, with a lot of practice it becomes possible to separate yours from theirs and soon it'll be a constant flow.
at this point once you to have firmly established your symbiotic relationship is the time you can attempt any pacts or deals, don't expect to much really after all, you invited them to come and be your friend, and it's bad manners to be rude to your guests, but if you find an acceptable balance to keep it's interest, that's when you can do what you want, they really like it if you have enemies and ex friends to "curse". It's sort of a break having some other energy to feed it giving you a slight break from their constant hunger, do keep in mind the more you have it do in our world, the more energy you have to generate to keep them strong and interactive, so you may want to look into psychic vampirism, sex and blood magics, we humans can only generate so much
so there you have it, how to summon a demon, get all the faustian, dantism and enochian out of your ideals, once you have it, it's yours forever and they're rarely alone for long.
Wow...I am new here but not to demonology, I have to say this is one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever seen! thanks for the laugh, what are you doing? Easily controlled creatures? HA!
These creatures have no respect for you, they are older than mankind, immortal and your cutting your self is advice you give so flippantly? *shakes head in disbelief* I know you did not mean this as real advice but consider you readers, there maybe young and naive ones believing you...sounds like to me you may have an oppression of your own...JMO
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jordyn
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Re: how to summon a demon...
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2009, 08:56:48 PM »
actually i agree with your point, but your manner of response is really rather ugly, but i suppose not atypical...
however it's no more naive than to believe people can really turn into other creatures, have supernatural ancestry, are real live vampires, that supernatural energies can be hunted, tracked and contained or that anyone knows what they exactly are or even where they came from. further more failing to understand most of what is known on dealing with them comes from eighteenth century romanticism and roman catholicism, interpreted from middle eastern religions that first met their God, even enoch had his Divine angels on the good side of humanity.
you know nothing about me, my history or what inspired me to post it in such a "flippant" manner, if people are dumb enough to beg how to do it, think they can handle it and despise so deeply what actually created the known rules of contemporary demonology as to spit in the faces of it's fathers, they deserve what happens to them if they're incapable of figuring it out for themselves.
do you have a better technique, maybe something more commercially ceremonial and less personal experience ms. expert; would the banishing rituals followed up have been more responsible, the roman catholic exorcism is posted somewhere around here...
fyi...i haven't cut myself in over twenty years and as soon as i accepted their Creator, My God as being a superior choice, they were the next things to leave me without any silly dramatic fight for my soul, terror to my family or a need for anything but my faith and fortunate fellowship, but for me they left as easily and quickly as they came!
so stop being so assumptive, it really does not flatter you and we're both actually on the same page as to their nature and the incapability of so many people who seek them to actually deal with them, but that's their naivety, not mine.
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jordyn
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Re: how to summon a demon...
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2009, 08:58:46 PM »
Quote from: nightwolf on March 03, 2009, 10:01:30 PM
That's not how you get a demon to work for you. That's how you become a demon's thrall. Very big difference. And you won't even be it's forever, it'll just use you and when it's done it will eat you.
This is yet another reason why you DON'T SUMMON DEMONS.
But it's your soul, feel free to screw it over however you want.
blah, blah, blah, what's your technique?
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jordyn
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Re: how to summon a demon...
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2009, 08:23:13 AM »
they don't bother me anymore, i find it tedious that so many people think they're the answer to their life problems, beg for a way to control them and then come back whining because they ended up with something that wasn't a lost and confused soul that was just seeking help. If people are big enough to want, they're big enough to deal with the consequences when they get what they want and the self exclaimed "experts" don't tell them anything that can't be rehashed from old threads.
the egregore theory isn't new though...
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Cassiel
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Re: how to summon a demon...
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2009, 10:31:09 AM »
Quote from: jordyn on March 15, 2009, 08:56:48 PM
actually i agree with your point, but your manner of response is really rather ugly, but i suppose not atypical...
Then you understand me as I am rather to the point let me also say I dont take personal any discussions and am seasoned in debate so forgive what you may misconstrue as ugly I mean as percise .
You will find no sugar coating here.
Quote from: jordyn on March 15, 2009, 08:56:48 PM
however it's no more naive than to believe people can really turn into other creatures, have supernatural ancestry, are real live vampires, that supernatural energies can be hunted, tracked and contained or that anyone knows what they exactly are or even where they came from.
Agreed..wholeheartedly, many who do believe this non-sense are in fantasys of TV or movies and the psychological factors could go on for several pages. My point was the way you put this up as to say Here ya go..
Quote from: jordyn on March 15, 2009, 08:56:48 PM
further more failing to understand most of what is known on dealing with them comes from eighteenth century romanticism and roman catholicism, interpreted from middle eastern religions that first met their God, even enoch had his Divine angels on the good side of humanity.
These are written by the fathers of Demonology. The birthplace for Demonology is the era of the Middle Ages / Medieval Era. These books were written during these times, and were some of the text many philosophers shared and agreed upon, as well as the Church. Books like those, then helped create works like that of the Hexen Hammer to trial witches. These are very important texts if one is ever to study Demonology, as it is the only text known to catalogue the Demonic Hierarchy.
Quote from: jordyn on March 15, 2009, 08:56:48 PM
you know nothing about me, my history or what inspired me to post it in such a "flippant" manner, if people are dumb enough to beg how to do it, think they can handle it and despise so deeply what actually created the known rules of contemporary demonology as to spit in the faces of it's fathers, they deserve what happens to them if they're incapable of figuring it out for themselves.
I dont have to; your post told me all I needed to know about you. Even your childish reply now, "they deserve what happens to them if they're incapable of figuring it out for themselves."
shows me your nature . There is no need to do anything ..you do a nice job of hanging yourself..
Quote from: jordyn on March 15, 2009, 08:56:48 PM
do you have a better technique, maybe something more commercially ceremonial and less personal experience ms. expert; would the banishing rituals followed up have been more responsible, the roman catholic exorcism is posted somewhere around here...
What I have is knowledge and responsibility for it, what do you seek? This is a dangerous subject and Roman Exorcism Rite is not to be attempted by any except a Priest trained in this.
Quote from: jordyn on March 15, 2009, 08:56:48 PM
fyi...i haven't cut myself in over twenty years and as soon as i accepted their Creator, My God as being a superior choice, they were the next things to leave me without any silly dramatic fight for my soul, terror to my family or a need for anything but my faith and fortunate fellowship, but for me they left as easily and quickly as they came!
I do not care to know when you cut your self last, honestly.
Quote from: jordyn on March 15, 2009, 08:56:48 PM
so stop being so assumptive, it really does not flatter you and we're both actually on the same page as to their nature and the incapability of so many people who seek them to actually deal with them, but that's their naivety, not mine.
If you do not want to be thought of as some flippant immature person ...do not post as one; I have no problem with you as far as discussion of what you say we agree on but you cant straddle the fence on this subject. Either you are proficient enough to know these are dangerous creatures not to be controlled by any human as we are an inferior being to them, or your peddling flippant and dangerous advise a young and impressionable person might take seriously...there is no in between
Cassiel
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Re: how to summon a demon...
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2009, 10:56:06 AM »
I can see a pattern here..... can you kreep?
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Cassiel
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Re: how to summon a demon...
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2009, 11:22:11 AM »
I can do many things... hehe
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Barek Halfhand
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Re: how to summon a demon...
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2009, 01:02:31 PM »
The one thing I have noticed in the years I have been prowling these forums is that just the topic itself always generates bad energy ...
and as Blatty's novel turned movie laments: the attack is psychological ....
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Loki
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Re: how to summon a demon...
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2009, 02:50:48 PM »
I think Kreepy post aimed at starting the debate on how to better raise demons or spirits. if you believe in such entities, why not having them on your side ?
If you are more on the angelic side, it might not be the place to debate and angels are too busy to answer anyway ...
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Cassiel
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Re: how to summon a demon...
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2009, 07:07:05 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Kreepy on March 16, 2009, 02:16:36 PM
Quote from: Raziel on March 16, 2009, 10:56:06 AM
I can see a pattern here..... can you kreep?
The only pattern I see is a couple of loonies arguing over whose delusion is more real.
Ahh do I detect a hint of sarcasm..and who would you be refering to as "loonies" ?
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Cassiel
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Re: how to summon a demon...
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2009, 12:45:01 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Kreepy on March 16, 2009, 10:22:49 PM
Quote from: Cassiel on March 16, 2009, 07:07:05 PM
Ahh do I detect a hint of sarcasm..and who would you be refering to as "loonies" ?
Read my posts and you'd get the answer to that question.
Quote from: Loki on March 16, 2009, 02:50:48 PM
I think Kreepy post aimed at starting the debate on how to better raise demons or spirits. if you believe in such entities, why not having them on your side ?
If you are more on the angelic side, it might not be the place to debate and angels are too busy to answer anyway ...
I'm glad someone here understands what I was getting at.
You're exactly right. What's the purpose of mentally giving power to beings, and not utilizing them for your own will? Seems rather masochistic and foolish to me.
your quite a comedian kreepy guy!..
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jordyn
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Re: how to summon a demon...
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2009, 08:05:14 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Kreepy on March 16, 2009, 08:42:14 AM
Quote from: jordyn on March 16, 2009, 08:23:13 AM
the egregore theory isn't new though...
I wasn't actually referring to that particular belief, but I find it interesting that you mention that.
I understand what you mean, though.
But consider something...If someone had the mental and spiritual maturity to pursue an entity, would it really be such a bad thing? To label ALL encounters as negative is incredibly ignorant and generalistic.
it's their bed...they make it, if their that intelligent they'll realize all they need is a little faith in their own strength and confidence in their will, this may sound funny coming from me, but if you have more faith to sit by and wait for them to solve your problems...than yourself, you'll be waiting a long time, even Abraham's God helps them, who help themselves...and if they can handle it, more power to them!
but how can anyone handle anything if they don't know exactly what it is...it's sort of like handling two combustible chemicals with absolutely no scientific understanding of their properties and wondering what happens if you mix them. sometimes you get lucky but sometimes people get hurt, as long as my little world is out of their reach, i'm good...i have more tangible issues to take care of.
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